Is there such a thing as a logical liberal argument? Give an example.?

In Logic, an argument is a set of declarative sentences (statements) known as the premises, and another declarative sentence (statement) known as the conclusion in which it is asserted that the truth of the conclusion follows from (is entailed by) the premisses. Such an argument may or may not be valid. Note: in Logic declarative sentences (statements) are either true or false (not valid or invalid); arguments are valid or invalid (not true or false). Many authors in Logic now use the term 'sentence' to mean a declarative sentence rather than 'statement' or 'proposition' to avoid certain philosophical implications of these last two terms.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_arg...





Example 1:





Claim: Cats are less intelligent than dogs.


Ground: Cats cannot learn to do tricks as well as dogs do.


Warrant: The ability to learn tricks is a mark of intelligence.





Example 2:





Where: C=claim, W=warrant, G=ground, and Q=qualifier





C: Humans can't fly.


Q: In a gravity fie

Is there such a thing as a logical liberal argument? Give an example.?
In your example #1 your "declarative sentence" is not true.





Cats CAN learn tricks as well as dogs - their human handlers are the problem.


Few humans have the intelligence or the patience to train cats - that is the real problem.





Example #2 - umm what is "in a gravity fie" ????
Reply:Wow! Thanks "Master of Facts"!!!! Report It

Reply:"logic is subjective to the person making the argument" are you some kind of moron? Logic is by definition rational and objective. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though, when you say logic is "subjective" and assume you mean that people disagree on whether an "if p then q" is valid. My explanation for that is this:


Assuming premises "1" and "2" then we can assume


If p then q...if p happens and you don't get q then the argument is invalid due to a false premise. Also, lines of reasoning are different depending on the premises.





I can't give a logically valid liberal argument, but their main assumption seems to be that all things are finite. They act as if things such as wealth, justice, and power can neither be created or destroyed. In order to be just to one you need to be unjust to another, in order to give wealth to one you need to take wealth for another. They act as if materials can reach some equilibrium of distribution, which is nonsense as materials are constantly changing and have unequal values.
Reply:your a good dog, you learned how to type...
Reply:How about this.


You have freedom.


Terrorists threaten you.


Your president says they do it because they hate your freedom.


You decide not to give up your freedom in order to fight them.








This is one that republicans' still can't figure out.
Reply:Well when you put it that way, I really doubt you'll find a logical liberal arguement.
Reply:Are you familiar with the term oxymoron?
Reply:Liberal....Logic??? ..."That is highly illogical, Captain Kirk"


I do not think that liberals have logic, as the normal definition of logic should be, as a conservative would understand. Logic to a liberal is what they call "fuzzy logic". In their own demented way, "fuzzy logic" is normal logic to them.... Also, liberals are so brain washed by their "moral relativism. A good example is the death penalty and abortion. Liberals say conservatives that are against abortion and for the death penalty are hypocrites. This is an effect of fuzzy logic and moral relativism. They fail to see the difference between the killing of a completely innocent unborn baby in the name of "choice" and a convicted criminal being executed as the punishment for his/her crime(s) which is merely the execution of the sentence handed out by the courts. Let me one point clear, while I do support the death penalty, I also very much believe that every avenue of evidence should be exhausted before the criminal is executed, to be sure that an innocent person isn't executed.
Reply:Sure...Republicans are destroying America





Example 1 : Rush Limbaugh





Example 2 : Bush





Example 3 : Dick Cheney





Example 4 : Karl Rove





Example 5 : Paul Wolfowitz





Example 6 : Sean Hannity
Reply:the real funny thing is that the basis of your argument is how a true liberal thinks....they actually do have a logic and they always scrutinize their logic....they have the ability to change as the information comes in and they believe a scientist before they believe a TV evangelalist
Reply:Well someone is enrolled in freshmen English. Clearly, you haven't gotten to the part about logical fallacies yet or you wouldn't be making sweeping generalizations.
Reply:Logic is subjective to the person making the argument. I for one find very little legitimate logic in Liberal arguments, however I do understand their objectives, evil as they may be.
Reply:Go back to the textbook. You got three things wron gin your explanation. And your "Example one" is not logically valid--either that or its incomplete.





As to your question--yes. There are also very logical conservative--and even neoconservative arguements. But in all cases, that does not mean they are valid arguements. If the premises are invalid, the logic will produce an invalid conclusion. Or, in shorthand, garbage in, garbage out.
Reply:And this belongs in the politicial section........why?





Oh, I see. Just another pointless rant that makes you lok inbread. Nice try troll. Don't screw with me tonight.
Reply:yes, a liberal argument that has clear logic in it is their support of unions. unions help the average person bargain much more effectively with a wide range of powerful entities. It also helps normal people gain access to power that they would never have any other way
Reply:Logical Liberal . Isn't that like oil and water. The two just don't mix. Hoo! Hoo!
Reply:That's not very nice.





If you're going to insult people you could at least give examples of what's illogical about their beliefs. You know... instead of just ranting on about how illogical liberals are. People might think you are stupid, because right now it seems like you just HEARD liberals are illogical because you have no real examples.





It just seems logical to give an example in a rant.





What you just added about Conservatives giving rational explanations is absurd. You complimented their beliefs, of course they aren't going to say bad stuff about you. While you insult Liberals you expect them to be nice to you? Where's the logic in that?
Reply:HA!! A logical LIEberal could only exist in a fantasy world!